Joan Steidinger (who as best I can tell lives in California) wrote in Sisterhood in Sports "They not only won-they smoked the other team. Smuconlaw ( talk) 11:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC) Incidentally, "beat someone at something" isn't restricted to New Zealand.
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Hopefully someone familiar with New Zealand slang can weigh in so we can decide if the entry needs revision. Chuck Entz ( talk) 07:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC) Thanks. In a way, it might even be sort of a variation on the previous sense, "to kill". Was Williams using the word in one of the senses already captured in our entry, using it in a sense not already captured (NZ slang?), or simply misusing the word? Smuconlaw ( talk) 06:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC) I would guess #7: "( New Zealand, slang) To beat someone at something." I suspect it has a broader meaning than our definition: "to clobber, pound or obliterate to beat someone brutally and decisively at something". The security guard in question tackled to the ground a teenager who had invaded the pitch to meet SBW. I can't have been the first to notice Sonny Bill Williams' use of smoke following New Zealand's World Cup win: "Just before he came to give me a hug he got smoked by one of the security guards and I felt pretty sorry for him you know.": see, for example. Danielklein ( talk) 06:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC) Smoke (v.) But I'm happy to learn otherwise if there is compelling evidence for the current etymology. Since typo also seems to me to be a diminutive I'd expect it to also use -o.
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I would have thought that mo is simply short for moustache but since reading the etymology it makes sense that it is using the diminutive -o. (How old is typo? Speako claims to derive from typo, but speako is attested since at least the 1780s Early Diary of Frances Burney, apparently in this sense.) -sche (discuss) 05:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC) Exactly why I'm asking for someone else to check it! I'm not an expert, it just looks inconsistent. Chuck Entz ( talk) 03:50, 2 November 2015 (UTC) The existence of thinko, speako, etc suggests -o is at work. I'm not commenting on whether the etymology is correct, just pointing out that the pronunciation of the o isn't evidence against it. Would someone please check this and either reply or correct the entry?Īlso, typographer and typographical could both do with pronunciation.ĭanielklein ( talk) 02:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC) It doesn't quite work that way: just as the o in typography is different than the o in typographical due to the accent, the o in typo would be different again by virtue of being in a final, unaccented syllable. This suggests to me that the correct etymology is typographical + -o, the same way mo is moustache + -o and not simply a shortening of moustache. If this was the case the pronunciation of typo would be either /taɪˈpɒ/ or /ˈtaɪpə/ (both of which sound very unnatural in English). The etymology for typo says: Shortening of typographer (sense 1) and of typographical error (sense 2). suzukaze ( t・ c) 06:31, 1 November 2015 (UTC) Typographer, typographical & typo It seems that there is a typography sense missing. Njardarlogar ( talk) 10:49, 3 November 2015 (UTC) arm#English 'wow' is probably often an appropriate translation. sche (discuss) 23:46, 1 November 2015 (UTC) I suppose it can be translated to different English words depending on context. 74 shoe store, shoestore, shoeshop, shoe shopĬurrently there is only one translation: sheesh, but in this video, eg at 46:14, they subtitled by Jøss! the spoken "Oh, wow!" Any Norwegian speaker here to confirm or contradict that translation? - Droigheann ( talk) 02:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC) Pinging User:Njardarlogar as our most-recently-active (and hence most likely to respond) Norwegian speaker.70 Why don't Russian conjugations have their own pages?.68 sink - adjective or attributative-only noun?.66 No Chinese hanzi section for Shuowen Jiezi radical 豊.
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